It has been suggested we have a “RNZN Communicators Honours List”, e.g. BEM, OBE, etc, on the RNZNCA website. The proposed list will not include “campaign medals”. To help compile a true and accurate information on ex-RNZN or serving personnel that have been honoured by the Queen/or King, etc, can email me with the following information (1) Year Awarded (2) Name (3) Rank/Rating (4) Honour awarded (5) Occasion, e.g. New Year, Queen’s Birthday, etc. and (6) Strange as it may seem, the reason for your award if known.
a very late input but i remember doing this when i had left pussers and joined Civil Aviation NZ… and it was NAAFI….. no ambition and f…k all interest… hmmmmmm
VG* indicated that you possibly had a warrant Punishment that particular year but the Offence and Punishment was considered not that serious to stop you later qualifying for your LS & GCM, this way you could still get your 15 years in, it could also be awarded following you being awarded a CNP (Consequential Naval Penalty) if you appeared in a Civy Court and the punishment awarded didn’t warrant the CO seeking your discharge SNLR (Services no longer Required [this was often referred to by many even to day as a Dishonourable Discharge a load of bollix] A VG* could only be awarded to a rating once during his career.
Finally! After all these years success has finally arrived. It has been very annoying over the years writing to prime Ministers and Min of Def’s to be fobbed off with replies that showed a clear lack of understanding about a NZ Defence medal meant for ALL servicemen and women. To quote an old signal saying “Bravo Zulu” to those who have been behind the scenes driving this one.
Love your comment Frank – I have no idea what you have no idea about. Guess it must be Pilz Post. He gets confused you know – refer NZDF Medal page!
Quite agree Neill. Now we must just strive to stay alive long enough to see it. I do hope that they don’t cock it up with a silly ribbon or anything.
Casper
Medal ribbons are becoming as colourful as Licorice Allsorts. I’m picking the ribbon for the new medal will be the old British WWII Defence Medal one with black stripes separating the main colours!
Could be Jim – I can’t see what would be wrong with the three service colours Navy & Air Force blue Army brown. No doubt finer brains than ours will work on it for many weeks to come, rather than the many weeks that have passed.
Ken Beattie!
It’s amazing who turns up = glad to hear that you are still with us.
I am awaiting a reply from Wayne Mapp as to why the delays etc for the medal. Got to be too much for my local mp so she referred my whinges to him. Will share if its worth while – though being politicians I would doubt it.
Casper
Jim,
I think you got it part right. I believe the ribbon colours are those of the 1939-1945 bronze star with another couple of colours added. Medal is bronze like the GSM with NZ Coat of Arms one side and on the other side of medal, combined Navy, Army, Air force emblem. For us who volunteered to serve our Queen and Country a clasp denoting “REGULAR”. I was always regular when in pussers.
I have been trying to find more information on my grandfather and came across your website regarding compiling a list for your RNZN Communicators Honours List. Maybe my grandfather’s BEM may be of interest. Unfortunately the letter from Captain M L Hardie, Naval Officer in Charge only stated “for your service in HMNZS Dockyard, Auckland.”, however I believe Jack,(as he was known) had something to do with the refuelling/bunkering during the 2nd World War and until his retirement.
He was possibly on the ‘Nucula’ in the late 1920’s??
Details are:
Charles Stanley YATES – retired from HMNZ Dockyard Auckland in 1953
Awarded British Empire Medal (Civil Division), New Year’s Honours List 1954 Presented by Her Majesty The Queen at an Investiture in Wellington 12 January, 1954.
Please excuse my misunderstanding of RNZN Communicators!!! Assoc.
I should have read further as obviously the BEM recipient I described was not in a communication area!
Hi Faye – not to worry. Everyone is welcome on here. I have compiled a history of tankers that served NZ, including the Nucula. Anything that you may have on that ship including your Grandfather, I would be interested in. Please email me dinger69@xtra.co.nz
Regards
Jim Dell
On 27 April 1956 I received a Lab.MT.13 (enlistment notice under the Military Training Act 1949. ) The question I raise is that when I apply for the NZDF medal , which clasp am I entitled to – REGULAR – CMT , or both ?. …
Albie, The short answer is that you could be eligible for both. Certainly if you served in the RNZNVR and then the Regular Force then you will get both bars as long as you did the requisite time in each arm of the service.
Thanks Frank. I am not alone in this situation as all 35 members of my intake ( 12th Boys ,Nov. 1947) would have received the same notice. We were all under 18 as at 1 January, 1949 and it was appreciated that although we had served for approximately 8 years , we were still required to register under the Act. I thought at the time it was a bit farcical but who are we to question the workings of those who are elected to draft the legislation.
Goodness me, has February slipped past already without an update???? Perhaps NZDF “breaking news”: page is, in fact, broken…..or is someone extracting the proverbial?
Casper
Frank, have you seen NZDef medals new website, no breaking news as previous, certainly broken for sure.
I have been following the long service medal saga since 2011 nothing to see anymore.
It has been suggested we have a “RNZN Communicators Honours List”, e.g. BEM, OBE, etc, on the RNZNCA website. The proposed list will not include “campaign medals”. To help compile a true and accurate information on ex-RNZN or serving personnel that have been honoured by the Queen/or King, etc, can email me with the following information (1) Year Awarded (2) Name (3) Rank/Rating (4) Honour awarded (5) Occasion, e.g. New Year, Queen’s Birthday, etc. and (6) Strange as it may seem, the reason for your award if known.
hey john, does n.a.f.a.i. count, cause i was awarded that on almost all ships i served !
a very late input but i remember doing this when i had left pussers and joined Civil Aviation NZ… and it was NAAFI….. no ambition and f…k all interest… hmmmmmm
I have no idea.
My records show I got a VG* on HMNZS KANIERE, does that qualify?
Pilz
hi just wondering if you knew a Donald “Don” Ian Smith, he was a signalmen and he also served on the Kaniere, sorry i don’t know what year
He was on her for a term of 12 months in the Korean war 1953-1954 I was also a bunting on her
peter Broom
VG* indicated that you possibly had a warrant Punishment that particular year but the Offence and Punishment was considered not that serious to stop you later qualifying for your LS & GCM, this way you could still get your 15 years in, it could also be awarded following you being awarded a CNP (Consequential Naval Penalty) if you appeared in a Civy Court and the punishment awarded didn’t warrant the CO seeking your discharge SNLR (Services no longer Required [this was often referred to by many even to day as a Dishonourable Discharge a load of bollix] A VG* could only be awarded to a rating once during his career.
Finally! After all these years success has finally arrived. It has been very annoying over the years writing to prime Ministers and Min of Def’s to be fobbed off with replies that showed a clear lack of understanding about a NZ Defence medal meant for ALL servicemen and women. To quote an old signal saying “Bravo Zulu” to those who have been behind the scenes driving this one.
Love your comment Frank – I have no idea what you have no idea about. Guess it must be Pilz Post. He gets confused you know – refer NZDF Medal page!
Quite agree Neill. Now we must just strive to stay alive long enough to see it. I do hope that they don’t cock it up with a silly ribbon or anything.
Casper
Medal ribbons are becoming as colourful as Licorice Allsorts. I’m picking the ribbon for the new medal will be the old British WWII Defence Medal one with black stripes separating the main colours!
Could be Jim – I can’t see what would be wrong with the three service colours Navy & Air Force blue Army brown. No doubt finer brains than ours will work on it for many weeks to come, rather than the many weeks that have passed.
Good to see something has come to light..
Done the time…now let’s see the shine.
Ken Beattie!
It’s amazing who turns up = glad to hear that you are still with us.
I am awaiting a reply from Wayne Mapp as to why the delays etc for the medal. Got to be too much for my local mp so she referred my whinges to him. Will share if its worth while – though being politicians I would doubt it.
Casper
Jim,
I think you got it part right. I believe the ribbon colours are those of the 1939-1945 bronze star with another couple of colours added. Medal is bronze like the GSM with NZ Coat of Arms one side and on the other side of medal, combined Navy, Army, Air force emblem. For us who volunteered to serve our Queen and Country a clasp denoting “REGULAR”. I was always regular when in pussers.
Terry Patterson
I have been trying to find more information on my grandfather and came across your website regarding compiling a list for your RNZN Communicators Honours List. Maybe my grandfather’s BEM may be of interest. Unfortunately the letter from Captain M L Hardie, Naval Officer in Charge only stated “for your service in HMNZS Dockyard, Auckland.”, however I believe Jack,(as he was known) had something to do with the refuelling/bunkering during the 2nd World War and until his retirement.
He was possibly on the ‘Nucula’ in the late 1920’s??
Details are:
Charles Stanley YATES – retired from HMNZ Dockyard Auckland in 1953
Awarded British Empire Medal (Civil Division), New Year’s Honours List 1954 Presented by Her Majesty The Queen at an Investiture in Wellington 12 January, 1954.
Please excuse my misunderstanding of RNZN Communicators!!! Assoc.
I should have read further as obviously the BEM recipient I described was not in a communication area!
Hi Faye – not to worry. Everyone is welcome on here. I have compiled a history of tankers that served NZ, including the Nucula. Anything that you may have on that ship including your Grandfather, I would be interested in. Please email me dinger69@xtra.co.nz
Regards
Jim Dell
On 27 April 1956 I received a Lab.MT.13 (enlistment notice under the Military Training Act 1949. ) The question I raise is that when I apply for the NZDF medal , which clasp am I entitled to – REGULAR – CMT , or both ?. …
Albie, The short answer is that you could be eligible for both. Certainly if you served in the RNZNVR and then the Regular Force then you will get both bars as long as you did the requisite time in each arm of the service.
Thanks Frank. I am not alone in this situation as all 35 members of my intake ( 12th Boys ,Nov. 1947) would have received the same notice. We were all under 18 as at 1 January, 1949 and it was appreciated that although we had served for approximately 8 years , we were still required to register under the Act. I thought at the time it was a bit farcical but who are we to question the workings of those who are elected to draft the legislation.
Goodness me, has February slipped past already without an update???? Perhaps NZDF “breaking news”: page is, in fact, broken…..or is someone extracting the proverbial?
Casper
Dear me, has February slipped past without me noticing an update on NZDF breaking news???
Perhaps “breaking news” is broken??
Frank, have you seen NZDef medals new website, no breaking news as previous, certainly broken for sure.
I have been following the long service medal saga since 2011 nothing to see anymore.